According to Hebrews 12:6 “because the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son.”
Punishment (chastisement) occurs as a disciplining measure resulting from misbehavior. A father punishes his son for disobedience or rebellion. He does not punish for accidents or immature decisions; rather, for these he disciplines, teaches, and trains his son to make and choose right behavior. Discipline is what I dealt with in the “tire” story. tire
A father might punish in several ways. First he might rebuke with words, spank, take away something, or even step aside and let the “rebel” suffer the consequences of his actions. I believe God punishes in all those ways also.
We might see these actions progress from a rebuke in ones conscience. The son might be ashamed of his actions and mend his ways. I point to Peter when he denied Christ as an example of this form of punishment.
Perhaps the rebellious son needs a spanking. How would God “spank?” I realize I am on thin ice here. Many will not agree with me, but it is obvious in the Bible that God allows suffering because of man’s sin. Ananias and Sapphira were struck dead for lying; Miriam and Uzziah were stricken with leprosy; Aaron’s sons were killed for offering “strange fire;” Achan and his family were destroyed because Achan took “loot” from the battle at Ai. There was an unusual story of punishment when Moses made the people drink the powder crushed from the golden calf.
Sometimes God punishes by taking something away. David suffered the loss of his son because of sin with Bathsheba. More common in the OT were times when crops or livestock were taken by locusts or famine often because of idolatry.
Then there are times when God removes his protective hand and lets men suffer the consequences of their own bad choices. A Bible example I would consider here would be when Lot choose to move into Sodom and there he suffered as a righteous man.
Later I will continue this subject with an contemporary story and some observations and advice.
Good mornin miss hayes, I agree with the message you communicated in this article.
I wouldn’t use the word “punish” regarding God’s children however. Because the “punishment” for sins is death, and Jesus took all of God’s “punishment” for the sins of His children.
If God were to “punish” His children for their sins, then that would prove that Jesus’ atonement for our sins was incomplete would it not?
I’m intending to be helpful, Christ-honoring, and not argumentative. 🙂
Thanks for feeling free to comment. I love interaction. The Bible uses the word “chasten” which is commonly termed punish in our ever day lingo. You will find that I write most things in a very simple manner. I realized when I read in your blog that you are very detail oriented. That is fine with me, but I’m not. 😀 There are many degrees of punishment for many degrees of misbehavior. Indeed Christ took our punishment. KJ says God “scourageth every son whom he receiveth.” That really sounds tough. How do you interpret that? I won’t consider it argumentative. I want to know.
Well I appreciate your kindness and thoughts about this Mrs. Hayes.
I know that scourageth is tough language, but I still wouldn’t classify it as punishment. I would characterize it as disciple.
God isn’t going to punish Jesus and you for the same sin. Otherwise, Jesus didn’t really take God’s full wrath for our sin if He held back some punishment for another day.
And like you clearly indicated, different disobediences from us brings different disciplining from God, based on what He deems best for our growth.
That’s how I see it.
I don’t have all of the answers, but that’s how I see this matter.
God bless you.
I enjoy the give and take. 😀
In my comment, I accidentally wrote “disciple,” when I intended to write “discipline.”
I understood. Spell check sometimes does unexpected things. Blessings. 😀
How we imagine our gods in our images😊
Just trusting in the Bible, the most consistent source that has remained through the centuries. Everybody bases their god images on something. That’s mine. 😀
You are most welcome to the Bible.
I read the Bible off and on (in hotels / motels sometimes out of all the places in the world and also the Koran sometimes). Won’t profess to be a scholar of any religious books. However I like what I read in Hindu scriptures, all paths lead to the one. So you be on your path and I mine and we will continue our duel when we leave our home. 😂
Sadly our duel and friendship is only for the moment that is this earthly life.
Don’t bet on it.
Looks like you are a believer of from dust to dust😂
For the body – yes. Perhaps even dust to ashes. 😀
I am thinking of donating my body to medical school(if my better half agrees). Then it will be from dust to scalpels😂. At least I may be of some use to others after death.
That’s what my husband says he wants. He knows what he is talking about since he has taught in those labs. But he doesn’t get around to getting any paperwork done about it. So… But that is oh so not me! It is helpful to people, however. I haven’t even signed organ donation. I plan to outlive my organs, none left to donate. 😀